diff --git a/doc/filters.texi b/doc/filters.texi
index d634924bfb..dbe3f5fd9f 100644
--- a/doc/filters.texi
+++ b/doc/filters.texi
@@ -299,7 +299,8 @@ timestamp expressed in seconds, NAN if the input timestamp is unknown
 sequential number of the input frame, starting from 0
 
 @item pos
-the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown
+the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown; deprecated, do
+not use
 
 @item w
 @item h
@@ -3005,10 +3006,6 @@ depends on the filter input pad, and is usually 1/@var{sample_rate}.
 @item pts_time
 The presentation timestamp of the input frame in seconds.
 
-@item pos
-position of the frame in the input stream, -1 if this information in
-unavailable and/or meaningless (for example in case of synthetic audio)
-
 @item fmt
 The sample format.
 
@@ -7306,7 +7303,7 @@ number of samples consumed by the filter
 @item nb_samples
 number of samples in the current frame
 @item pos
-original frame position in the file
+original frame position in the file; deprecated, do not use
 @item pts
 frame PTS
 @item sample_rate
@@ -10428,7 +10425,8 @@ pixel format "yuv422p" @var{hsub} is 2 and @var{vsub} is 1.
 The number of the input frame, starting from 0.
 
 @item pos
-the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown
+the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown; deprecated,
+do not use
 
 @item t
 The timestamp expressed in seconds. It's NAN if the input timestamp is unknown.
@@ -12772,7 +12770,7 @@ frame count of the input frame starting from 0
 
 @item pos
 byte position of the corresponding packet in the input file, NAN if
-unspecified
+unspecified; deprecated, do not use
 
 @item r
 frame rate of the input video, NAN if the input frame rate is unknown
@@ -18148,7 +18146,8 @@ format. For example for the pixel format "yuv422p" @var{hsub} is 2 and
 the number of input frame, starting from 0
 
 @item pos
-the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown
+the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown; deprecated,
+do not use
 
 @item t
 The timestamp, expressed in seconds. It's NAN if the input timestamp is unknown.
@@ -18157,7 +18156,7 @@ The timestamp, expressed in seconds. It's NAN if the input timestamp is unknown.
 
 This filter also supports the @ref{framesync} options.
 
-Note that the @var{n}, @var{pos}, @var{t} variables are available only
+Note that the @var{n}, @var{t} variables are available only
 when evaluation is done @emph{per frame}, and will evaluate to NAN
 when @option{eval} is set to @samp{init}.
 
@@ -18312,6 +18311,7 @@ The ordinal index of the main input frame, starting from 0.
 
 @item pos
 The byte offset position in the file of the main input frame, NAN if unknown.
+Deprecated, do not use.
 
 @item t
 The timestamp of the main input frame, expressed in seconds, NAN if unknown.
@@ -20196,6 +20196,7 @@ seconds. Only available with @code{eval=frame}.
 The position (byte offset) of the frame in the input stream, or NaN if
 this information is unavailable and/or meaningless (for example in case of synthetic video).
 Only available with @code{eval=frame}.
+Deprecated, do not use.
 @end table
 
 @subsection Examples
@@ -20528,6 +20529,7 @@ seconds. Only available with @code{eval=frame}.
 The position (byte offset) of the frame in the input stream, or NaN if
 this information is unavailable and/or meaningless (for example in case of synthetic video).
 Only available with @code{eval=frame}.
+Deprecated, do not use.
 @end table
 
 @section scale2ref
@@ -21151,10 +21153,6 @@ time base units. The time base unit depends on the filter input pad.
 The Presentation TimeStamp of the input frame, expressed as a number of
 seconds.
 
-@item pos
-The position of the frame in the input stream, or -1 if this information is
-unavailable and/or meaningless (for example in case of synthetic video).
-
 @item fmt
 The pixel format name.
 
@@ -22235,7 +22233,8 @@ The number of the input frame, starting from 0.
 The timestamp expressed in seconds. It's NAN if the input timestamp is unknown.
 
 @item pos
-the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown
+the position in the file of the input frame, NAN if unknown; deprecated,
+do not use
 @end table
 
 @subsection Commands
@@ -28910,7 +28909,7 @@ This is 1 if the filtered frame is a key-frame, 0 otherwise.
 
 @item pos
 the position in the file of the filtered frame, -1 if the information
-is not available (e.g. for synthetic video)
+is not available (e.g. for synthetic video); deprecated, do not use
 
 @item scene @emph{(video only)}
 value between 0 and 1 to indicate a new scene; a low value reflects a low
@@ -29100,7 +29099,7 @@ constants:
 @table @option
 @item POS
 Original position in the file of the frame, or undefined if undefined
-for the current frame.
+for the current frame. Deprecated, do not use.
 
 @item PTS
 The presentation timestamp in input.
@@ -29248,7 +29247,7 @@ the time in seconds of the current frame
 
 @item POS
 original position in the file of the frame, or undefined if undefined
-for the current frame
+for the current frame; deprecated, do not use
 
 @item PREV_INPTS
 The previous input PTS.
diff --git a/libavcodec/av1dec.c b/libavcodec/av1dec.c
index 4d3b559b96..5c14756a57 100644
--- a/libavcodec/av1dec.c
+++ b/libavcodec/av1dec.c
@@ -1074,7 +1074,11 @@ static int set_output_frame(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame,
 
     frame->pts = pkt->pts;
     frame->pkt_dts = pkt->dts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     frame->pkt_size = pkt->size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     *got_frame = 1;
 
diff --git a/libavcodec/crystalhd.c b/libavcodec/crystalhd.c
index 688cdffbcb..a48d60f123 100644
--- a/libavcodec/crystalhd.c
+++ b/libavcodec/crystalhd.c
@@ -549,9 +549,13 @@ static inline CopyRet copy_frame(AVCodecContext *avctx,
 
     frame->pts = pkt_pts;
 
-    frame->pkt_pos = -1;
     frame->duration = 0;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+    frame->pkt_pos = -1;
     frame->pkt_size = -1;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     if (!priv->need_second_field) {
         *got_frame       = 1;
diff --git a/libavcodec/cuviddec.c b/libavcodec/cuviddec.c
index 4ba7918b64..76e70aa648 100644
--- a/libavcodec/cuviddec.c
+++ b/libavcodec/cuviddec.c
@@ -623,9 +623,13 @@ static int cuvid_output_frame(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame)
         /* CUVIDs opaque reordering breaks the internal pkt logic.
          * So set pkt_pts and clear all the other pkt_ fields.
          */
-        frame->pkt_pos = -1;
         frame->duration = 0;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+        frame->pkt_pos = -1;
         frame->pkt_size = -1;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
         frame->interlaced_frame = !parsed_frame.is_deinterlacing && !parsed_frame.dispinfo.progressive_frame;
 
diff --git a/libavcodec/decode.c b/libavcodec/decode.c
index 22a0f8eb25..40f5a3ba59 100644
--- a/libavcodec/decode.c
+++ b/libavcodec/decode.c
@@ -139,8 +139,10 @@ static int extract_packet_props(AVCodecInternal *avci, const AVPacket *pkt)
     av_packet_unref(avci->last_pkt_props);
     if (pkt) {
         ret = av_packet_copy_props(avci->last_pkt_props, pkt);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
         if (!ret)
             avci->last_pkt_props->stream_index = pkt->size; // Needed for ff_decode_frame_props().
+#endif
     }
     return ret;
 }
@@ -287,8 +289,12 @@ static inline int decode_simple_internal(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame,
         if (!(codec->caps_internal & FF_CODEC_CAP_SETS_PKT_DTS))
             frame->pkt_dts = pkt->dts;
         if (avctx->codec->type == AVMEDIA_TYPE_VIDEO) {
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
             if(!avctx->has_b_frames)
                 frame->pkt_pos = pkt->pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
             //FIXME these should be under if(!avctx->has_b_frames)
             /* get_buffer is supposed to set frame parameters */
             if (!(avctx->codec->capabilities & AV_CODEC_CAP_DR1)) {
@@ -460,8 +466,10 @@ FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
         pkt->pts                  = AV_NOPTS_VALUE;
         pkt->dts                  = AV_NOPTS_VALUE;
         if (!(codec->caps_internal & FF_CODEC_CAP_SETS_FRAME_PROPS)) {
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
             // See extract_packet_props() comment.
             avci->last_pkt_props->stream_index = avci->last_pkt_props->stream_index - consumed;
+#endif
             avci->last_pkt_props->pts = AV_NOPTS_VALUE;
             avci->last_pkt_props->dts = AV_NOPTS_VALUE;
         }
@@ -1313,9 +1321,13 @@ int ff_decode_frame_props_from_pkt(const AVCodecContext *avctx,
     };
 
     frame->pts          = pkt->pts;
-    frame->pkt_pos      = pkt->pos;
     frame->duration     = pkt->duration;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+    frame->pkt_pos      = pkt->pos;
     frame->pkt_size     = pkt->size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     for (int i = 0; i < FF_ARRAY_ELEMS(sd); i++) {
         size_t size;
@@ -1356,7 +1368,11 @@ int ff_decode_frame_props(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame)
         int ret = ff_decode_frame_props_from_pkt(avctx, frame, pkt);
         if (ret < 0)
             return ret;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
         frame->pkt_size = pkt->stream_index;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     }
 #if FF_API_REORDERED_OPAQUE
 FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
diff --git a/libavcodec/libuavs3d.c b/libavcodec/libuavs3d.c
index b1ccb151e6..5c08d2b8d3 100644
--- a/libavcodec/libuavs3d.c
+++ b/libavcodec/libuavs3d.c
@@ -79,8 +79,12 @@ static void uavs3d_output_callback(uavs3d_io_frm_t *dec_frame) {
 
     frm->pts       = dec_frame->pts;
     frm->pkt_dts   = dec_frame->dts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     frm->pkt_pos   = dec_frame->pkt_pos;
     frm->pkt_size  = dec_frame->pkt_size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 #if FF_API_FRAME_PICTURE_NUMBER
 FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     frm->coded_picture_number   = dec_frame->dtr;
@@ -175,8 +179,12 @@ static int libuavs3d_decode_frame(AVCodecContext *avctx, AVFrame *frm,
         uavs3d_io_frm_t *frm_dec = &h->dec_frame;
 
         buf_end = buf + buf_size;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
         frm_dec->pkt_pos  = avpkt->pos;
         frm_dec->pkt_size = avpkt->size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
         while (!finish) {
             int bs_len;
diff --git a/libavdevice/lavfi.c b/libavdevice/lavfi.c
index 246f7dff3b..9c1fcf334b 100644
--- a/libavdevice/lavfi.c
+++ b/libavdevice/lavfi.c
@@ -343,7 +343,11 @@ static int create_subcc_packet(AVFormatContext *avctx, AVFrame *frame,
     memcpy(lavfi->subcc_packet.data, sd->data, sd->size);
     lavfi->subcc_packet.stream_index = stream_idx;
     lavfi->subcc_packet.pts = frame->pts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     lavfi->subcc_packet.pos = frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     return 0;
 }
 
@@ -450,7 +454,11 @@ static int lavfi_read_packet(AVFormatContext *avctx, AVPacket *pkt)
 
     pkt->stream_index = stream_idx;
     pkt->pts = frame->pts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     pkt->pos = frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     if (st->codecpar->codec_type != AVMEDIA_TYPE_VIDEO)
         av_frame_free(&frame);
diff --git a/libavfilter/af_ashowinfo.c b/libavfilter/af_ashowinfo.c
index 36ba38b478..20900369d0 100644
--- a/libavfilter/af_ashowinfo.c
+++ b/libavfilter/af_ashowinfo.c
@@ -213,12 +213,11 @@ FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     av_channel_layout_describe(&buf->ch_layout, chlayout_str, sizeof(chlayout_str));
 
     av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_INFO,
-           "n:%"PRId64" pts:%s pts_time:%s pos:%"PRId64" "
+           "n:%"PRId64" pts:%s pts_time:%s "
            "fmt:%s channels:%d chlayout:%s rate:%d nb_samples:%d "
            "checksum:%08"PRIX32" ",
            inlink->frame_count_out,
            av_ts2str(buf->pts), av_ts2timestr(buf->pts, &inlink->time_base),
-           buf->pkt_pos,
            av_get_sample_fmt_name(buf->format), buf->ch_layout.nb_channels, chlayout_str,
            buf->sample_rate, buf->nb_samples,
            checksum);
diff --git a/libavfilter/af_volume.c b/libavfilter/af_volume.c
index f6e183df8d..926529947c 100644
--- a/libavfilter/af_volume.c
+++ b/libavfilter/af_volume.c
@@ -48,7 +48,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "nb_channels",         ///< number of channels
     "nb_consumed_samples", ///< number of samples consumed by the filter
     "nb_samples",          ///< number of samples in the current frame
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",                 ///< position in the file of the frame
+#endif
     "pts",                 ///< frame presentation timestamp
     "sample_rate",         ///< sample rate
     "startpts",            ///< PTS at start of stream
@@ -288,7 +290,9 @@ static int config_output(AVFilterLink *outlink)
     vol->var_values[VAR_N] =
     vol->var_values[VAR_NB_CONSUMED_SAMPLES] =
     vol->var_values[VAR_NB_SAMPLES] =
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     vol->var_values[VAR_POS] =
+#endif
     vol->var_values[VAR_PTS] =
     vol->var_values[VAR_STARTPTS] =
     vol->var_values[VAR_STARTT] =
@@ -330,7 +334,6 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *buf)
     AVFilterLink *outlink = inlink->dst->outputs[0];
     int nb_samples        = buf->nb_samples;
     AVFrame *out_buf;
-    int64_t pos;
     AVFrameSideData *sd = av_frame_get_side_data(buf, AV_FRAME_DATA_REPLAYGAIN);
     int ret;
 
@@ -380,8 +383,15 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *buf)
     vol->var_values[VAR_T  ] = TS2T(buf->pts, inlink->time_base);
     vol->var_values[VAR_N  ] = inlink->frame_count_out;
 
-    pos = buf->pkt_pos;
-    vol->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+    {
+        int64_t pos;
+        pos = buf->pkt_pos;
+        vol->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+    }
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     if (vol->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME)
         set_volume(ctx);
 
diff --git a/libavfilter/asrc_flite.c b/libavfilter/asrc_flite.c
index 5fab8086ba..1c3053aa39 100644
--- a/libavfilter/asrc_flite.c
+++ b/libavfilter/asrc_flite.c
@@ -272,7 +272,11 @@ static int request_frame(AVFilterLink *outlink)
     memcpy(samplesref->data[0], flite->wave_samples,
            nb_samples * flite->wave->num_channels * 2);
     samplesref->pts = flite->pts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     samplesref->pkt_pos = -1;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     samplesref->sample_rate = flite->wave->sample_rate;
     flite->pts += nb_samples;
     flite->wave_samples += nb_samples * flite->wave->num_channels;
diff --git a/libavfilter/avfilter.c b/libavfilter/avfilter.c
index ec83b691bf..8d5702a0c8 100644
--- a/libavfilter/avfilter.c
+++ b/libavfilter/avfilter.c
@@ -487,7 +487,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
 enum {
     VAR_T,
     VAR_N,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_W,
     VAR_H,
     VAR_VARS_NB
@@ -1464,7 +1466,11 @@ int ff_inlink_evaluate_timeline_at_frame(AVFilterLink *link, const AVFrame *fram
 {
     AVFilterContext *dstctx = link->dst;
     int64_t pts = frame->pts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     int64_t pos = frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     if (!dstctx->enable_str)
         return 1;
@@ -1473,7 +1479,9 @@ int ff_inlink_evaluate_timeline_at_frame(AVFilterLink *link, const AVFrame *fram
     dstctx->var_values[VAR_T] = pts == AV_NOPTS_VALUE ? NAN : pts * av_q2d(link->time_base);
     dstctx->var_values[VAR_W] = link->w;
     dstctx->var_values[VAR_H] = link->h;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     dstctx->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+#endif
 
     return fabs(av_expr_eval(dstctx->enable, dstctx->var_values, NULL)) >= 0.5;
 }
diff --git a/libavfilter/f_select.c b/libavfilter/f_select.c
index 1cfe2d59e5..d76c248fc5 100644
--- a/libavfilter/f_select.c
+++ b/libavfilter/f_select.c
@@ -134,7 +134,9 @@ enum var_name {
     VAR_PREV_SELECTED_N,
 
     VAR_KEY,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
 
     VAR_SCENE,
 
@@ -339,7 +341,11 @@ static void select_frame(AVFilterContext *ctx, AVFrame *frame)
     select->var_values[VAR_N  ] = inlink->frame_count_out;
     select->var_values[VAR_PTS] = TS2D(frame->pts);
     select->var_values[VAR_T  ] = TS2D(frame->pts) * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     select->var_values[VAR_POS] = frame->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     select->var_values[VAR_KEY] = frame->key_frame;
     select->var_values[VAR_CONCATDEC_SELECT] = get_concatdec_select(frame, av_rescale_q(frame->pts, inlink->time_base, AV_TIME_BASE_Q));
 
diff --git a/libavfilter/f_sendcmd.c b/libavfilter/f_sendcmd.c
index 857b841313..eb49f8baba 100644
--- a/libavfilter/f_sendcmd.c
+++ b/libavfilter/f_sendcmd.c
@@ -43,7 +43,9 @@
 static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "N",     /* frame number */
     "T",     /* frame time in seconds */
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "POS",   /* original position in the file of the frame */
+#endif
     "PTS",   /* frame pts */
     "TS",    /* interval start time in seconds */
     "TE",    /* interval end time in seconds */
@@ -56,7 +58,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
 enum var_name {
     VAR_N,
     VAR_T,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_PTS,
     VAR_TS,
     VAR_TE,
@@ -531,7 +535,11 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *ref)
                         double current = TS2T(ref->pts, inlink->time_base);
 
                         var_values[VAR_N]   = inlink->frame_count_in;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
                         var_values[VAR_POS] = ref->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : ref->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
                         var_values[VAR_PTS] = TS2D(ref->pts);
                         var_values[VAR_T]   = current;
                         var_values[VAR_TS]  = start;
diff --git a/libavfilter/setpts.c b/libavfilter/setpts.c
index 171fae88c0..5bcc0c2dcf 100644
--- a/libavfilter/setpts.c
+++ b/libavfilter/setpts.c
@@ -45,7 +45,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "N",           ///< frame / sample number (starting at zero)
     "NB_CONSUMED_SAMPLES", ///< number of samples consumed by the filter (only audio)
     "NB_SAMPLES",  ///< number of samples in the current frame (only audio)
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "POS",         ///< original position in the file of the frame
+#endif
     "PREV_INPTS",  ///< previous  input PTS
     "PREV_INT",    ///< previous  input time in seconds
     "PREV_OUTPTS", ///< previous output PTS
@@ -70,7 +72,9 @@ enum var_name {
     VAR_N,
     VAR_NB_CONSUMED_SAMPLES,
     VAR_NB_SAMPLES,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_PREV_INPTS,
     VAR_PREV_INT,
     VAR_PREV_OUTPTS,
@@ -161,7 +165,11 @@ static double eval_pts(SetPTSContext *setpts, AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *fra
     }
     setpts->var_values[VAR_PTS       ] = TS2D(pts);
     setpts->var_values[VAR_T         ] = TS2T(pts, inlink->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     setpts->var_values[VAR_POS       ] = !frame || frame->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     setpts->var_values[VAR_RTCTIME   ] = av_gettime();
 
     if (frame) {
@@ -187,11 +195,10 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *frame)
     frame->pts = D2TS(d);
 
     av_log(inlink->dst, AV_LOG_TRACE,
-            "N:%"PRId64" PTS:%s T:%f POS:%s",
+            "N:%"PRId64" PTS:%s T:%f",
             (int64_t)setpts->var_values[VAR_N],
             d2istr(setpts->var_values[VAR_PTS]),
-            setpts->var_values[VAR_T],
-            d2istr(setpts->var_values[VAR_POS]));
+            setpts->var_values[VAR_T]);
     switch (inlink->type) {
     case AVMEDIA_TYPE_VIDEO:
         av_log(inlink->dst, AV_LOG_TRACE, " INTERLACED:%"PRId64,
@@ -242,10 +249,9 @@ static int activate(AVFilterContext *ctx)
     if (ff_inlink_acknowledge_status(inlink, &status, &pts)) {
         double d = eval_pts(setpts, inlink, NULL, pts);
 
-        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_TRACE, "N:EOF PTS:%s T:%f POS:%s -> PTS:%s T:%f\n",
+        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_TRACE, "N:EOF PTS:%s T:%f -> PTS:%s T:%f\n",
                d2istr(setpts->var_values[VAR_PTS]),
                setpts->var_values[VAR_T],
-               d2istr(setpts->var_values[VAR_POS]),
                d2istr(d), TS2T(d, inlink->time_base));
         ff_outlink_set_status(outlink, status, D2TS(d));
         return 0;
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_crop.c b/libavfilter/vf_crop.c
index c7cbfa51ef..6361209941 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_crop.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_crop.c
@@ -50,7 +50,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "x",
     "y",
     "n",            ///< number of frame
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",          ///< position in the file
+#endif
     "t",            ///< timestamp expressed in seconds
     NULL
 };
@@ -68,7 +70,9 @@ enum var_name {
     VAR_X,
     VAR_Y,
     VAR_N,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_T,
     VAR_VARS_NB
 };
@@ -145,7 +149,9 @@ static int config_input(AVFilterLink *link)
     s->var_values[VAR_OUT_H] = s->var_values[VAR_OH] = NAN;
     s->var_values[VAR_N]     = 0;
     s->var_values[VAR_T]     = NAN;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     s->var_values[VAR_POS]   = NAN;
+#endif
 
     av_image_fill_max_pixsteps(s->max_step, NULL, pix_desc);
 
@@ -257,8 +263,12 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *frame)
     s->var_values[VAR_N] = link->frame_count_out;
     s->var_values[VAR_T] = frame->pts == AV_NOPTS_VALUE ?
         NAN : frame->pts * av_q2d(link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     s->var_values[VAR_POS] = frame->pkt_pos == -1 ?
         NAN : frame->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     s->var_values[VAR_X] = av_expr_eval(s->x_pexpr, s->var_values, NULL);
     s->var_values[VAR_Y] = av_expr_eval(s->y_pexpr, s->var_values, NULL);
     /* It is necessary if x is expressed from y  */
@@ -280,8 +290,8 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *frame)
         s->y &= ~((1 << s->vsub) - 1);
     }
 
-    av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_TRACE, "n:%d t:%f pos:%f x:%d y:%d x+w:%d y+h:%d\n",
-            (int)s->var_values[VAR_N], s->var_values[VAR_T], s->var_values[VAR_POS],
+    av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_TRACE, "n:%d t:%f x:%d y:%d x+w:%d y+h:%d\n",
+            (int)s->var_values[VAR_N], s->var_values[VAR_T],
             s->x, s->y, s->x+s->w, s->y+s->h);
 
     if (desc->flags & AV_PIX_FMT_FLAG_HWACCEL) {
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_drawtext.c b/libavfilter/vf_drawtext.c
index 50012bb258..71ab851462 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_drawtext.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_drawtext.c
@@ -90,11 +90,15 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "x",
     "y",
     "pict_type",
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pkt_pos",
+#endif
 #if FF_API_PKT_DURATION
     "pkt_duration",
 #endif
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pkt_size",
+#endif
     "duration",
     NULL
 };
@@ -133,11 +137,15 @@ enum var_name {
     VAR_X,
     VAR_Y,
     VAR_PICT_TYPE,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_PKT_POS,
+#endif
 #if FF_API_PKT_DURATION
     VAR_PKT_DURATION,
 #endif
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_PKT_SIZE,
+#endif
     VAR_DURATION,
     VAR_VARS_NB
 };
@@ -1654,7 +1662,12 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *frame)
         NAN : frame->pts * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
 
     s->var_values[VAR_PICT_TYPE] = frame->pict_type;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     s->var_values[VAR_PKT_POS] = frame->pkt_pos;
+    s->var_values[VAR_PKT_SIZE] = frame->pkt_size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 #if FF_API_PKT_DURATION
 FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     s->var_values[VAR_PKT_DURATION] = frame->pkt_duration * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
@@ -1665,7 +1678,6 @@ FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
 FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
 #endif
     s->var_values[VAR_DURATION] = frame->duration * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
-    s->var_values[VAR_PKT_SIZE] = frame->pkt_size;
 
     s->metadata = frame->metadata;
 
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_eq.c b/libavfilter/vf_eq.c
index 46636dd29d..7955bf717e 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_eq.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_eq.c
@@ -221,7 +221,6 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *in)
     AVFilterLink *outlink = inlink->dst->outputs[0];
     EQContext *eq = ctx->priv;
     AVFrame *out;
-    int64_t pos = in->pkt_pos;
     const AVPixFmtDescriptor *desc;
     int i;
 
@@ -235,7 +234,14 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *in)
     desc = av_pix_fmt_desc_get(inlink->format);
 
     eq->var_values[VAR_N]   = inlink->frame_count_out;
-    eq->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+    {
+        int64_t pos = in->pkt_pos;
+        eq->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+    }
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     eq->var_values[VAR_T]   = TS2T(in->pts, inlink->time_base);
 
     if (eq->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME) {
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_eq.h b/libavfilter/vf_eq.h
index fc8d4a711a..50850ea42c 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_eq.h
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_eq.h
@@ -30,7 +30,9 @@
 
 static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "n",   // frame count
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos", // frame position
+#endif
     "r",   // frame rate
     "t",   // timestamp expressed in seconds
     NULL
@@ -38,7 +40,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
 
 enum var_name {
     VAR_N,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_R,
     VAR_T,
     VAR_NB
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_overlay.c b/libavfilter/vf_overlay.c
index e201e07c15..36c04ac21b 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_overlay.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_overlay.c
@@ -55,7 +55,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "x",
     "y",
     "n",            ///< number of frame
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",          ///< position in the file
+#endif
     "t",            ///< timestamp expressed in seconds
     NULL
 };
@@ -290,7 +292,9 @@ static int config_input_overlay(AVFilterLink *inlink)
     s->var_values[VAR_Y]     = NAN;
     s->var_values[VAR_N]     = 0;
     s->var_values[VAR_T]     = NAN;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     s->var_values[VAR_POS]   = NAN;
+#endif
 
     if ((ret = set_expr(&s->x_pexpr,      s->x_expr,      "x",      ctx)) < 0 ||
         (ret = set_expr(&s->y_pexpr,      s->y_expr,      "y",      ctx)) < 0)
@@ -1007,12 +1011,18 @@ static int do_blend(FFFrameSync *fs)
         return ff_filter_frame(ctx->outputs[0], mainpic);
 
     if (s->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME) {
-        int64_t pos = mainpic->pkt_pos;
 
         s->var_values[VAR_N] = inlink->frame_count_out;
         s->var_values[VAR_T] = mainpic->pts == AV_NOPTS_VALUE ?
             NAN : mainpic->pts * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
-        s->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+        {
+            int64_t pos = mainpic->pkt_pos;
+            s->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+        }
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
         s->var_values[VAR_OVERLAY_W] = s->var_values[VAR_OW] = second->width;
         s->var_values[VAR_OVERLAY_H] = s->var_values[VAR_OH] = second->height;
@@ -1020,8 +1030,8 @@ static int do_blend(FFFrameSync *fs)
         s->var_values[VAR_MAIN_H   ] = s->var_values[VAR_MH] = mainpic->height;
 
         eval_expr(ctx);
-        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_DEBUG, "n:%f t:%f pos:%f x:%f xi:%d y:%f yi:%d\n",
-               s->var_values[VAR_N], s->var_values[VAR_T], s->var_values[VAR_POS],
+        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_DEBUG, "n:%f t:%f x:%f xi:%d y:%f yi:%d\n",
+               s->var_values[VAR_N], s->var_values[VAR_T],
                s->var_values[VAR_X], s->x,
                s->var_values[VAR_Y], s->y);
     }
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_overlay.h b/libavfilter/vf_overlay.h
index 30a1a7371c..7e65095a06 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_overlay.h
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_overlay.h
@@ -34,7 +34,9 @@ enum var_name {
     VAR_X,
     VAR_Y,
     VAR_N,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_T,
     VAR_VARS_NB
 };
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_overlay_cuda.c b/libavfilter/vf_overlay_cuda.c
index b2cbb9c625..e9455ffcff 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_overlay_cuda.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_overlay_cuda.c
@@ -68,7 +68,9 @@ enum var_name {
     VAR_X,
     VAR_Y,
     VAR_N,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_T,
     VAR_VARS_NB
 };
@@ -87,7 +89,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "x",
     "y",
     "n",            ///< number of frame
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",          ///< position in the file
+#endif
     "t",            ///< timestamp expressed in seconds
     NULL
 };
@@ -238,8 +242,6 @@ static int overlay_cuda_blend(FFFrameSync *fs)
 
     AVFrame *input_main, *input_overlay;
 
-    int pos = 0;
-
     ctx->cu_ctx = cuda_ctx;
 
     // read main and overlay frames from inputs
@@ -268,11 +270,19 @@ static int overlay_cuda_blend(FFFrameSync *fs)
     }
 
     if (ctx->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME) {
-        pos = input_main->pkt_pos;
         ctx->var_values[VAR_N] = inlink->frame_count_out;
         ctx->var_values[VAR_T] = input_main->pts == AV_NOPTS_VALUE ?
             NAN : input_main->pts * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
-        ctx->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+        {
+            int64_t pos = input_main->pkt_pos;
+            ctx->var_values[VAR_POS] = pos == -1 ? NAN : pos;
+        }
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
+
         ctx->var_values[VAR_OVERLAY_W] = ctx->var_values[VAR_OW] = input_overlay->width;
         ctx->var_values[VAR_OVERLAY_H] = ctx->var_values[VAR_OH] = input_overlay->height;
         ctx->var_values[VAR_MAIN_W   ] = ctx->var_values[VAR_MW] = input_main->width;
@@ -280,8 +290,8 @@ static int overlay_cuda_blend(FFFrameSync *fs)
 
         eval_expr(avctx);
 
-        av_log(avctx, AV_LOG_DEBUG, "n:%f t:%f pos:%f x:%f xi:%d y:%f yi:%d\n",
-               ctx->var_values[VAR_N], ctx->var_values[VAR_T], ctx->var_values[VAR_POS],
+        av_log(avctx, AV_LOG_DEBUG, "n:%f t:%f x:%f xi:%d y:%f yi:%d\n",
+               ctx->var_values[VAR_N], ctx->var_values[VAR_T],
                ctx->var_values[VAR_X], ctx->x_position,
                ctx->var_values[VAR_Y], ctx->y_position);
     }
@@ -355,7 +365,9 @@ static int config_input_overlay(AVFilterLink *inlink)
     s->var_values[VAR_Y]   = NAN;
     s->var_values[VAR_N]   = 0;
     s->var_values[VAR_T]   = NAN;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     s->var_values[VAR_POS] = NAN;
+#endif
 
     if ((ret = set_expr(&s->x_pexpr, s->x_expr, "x", ctx)) < 0 ||
         (ret = set_expr(&s->y_pexpr, s->y_expr, "y", ctx)) < 0)
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_scale.c b/libavfilter/vf_scale.c
index 85047e3524..6b82763596 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_scale.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_scale.c
@@ -56,7 +56,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "ovsub",
     "n",
     "t",
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",
+#endif
     "main_w",
     "main_h",
     "main_a",
@@ -84,7 +86,9 @@ enum var_name {
     VAR_OVSUB,
     VAR_N,
     VAR_T,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_W,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_H,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_A,
@@ -205,7 +209,9 @@ static int check_exprs(AVFilterContext *ctx)
     if (scale->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_INIT &&
         (vars_w[VAR_N]            || vars_h[VAR_N]           ||
          vars_w[VAR_T]            || vars_h[VAR_T]           ||
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
          vars_w[VAR_POS]          || vars_h[VAR_POS]         ||
+#endif
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]  ||
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]  ||
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS]) ) {
@@ -738,8 +744,16 @@ static int scale_frame(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *in, AVFrame **frame_out)
         if (scale->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME &&
             !frame_changed &&
             ctx->filter != &ff_vf_scale2ref &&
-            !(vars_w[VAR_N] || vars_w[VAR_T] || vars_w[VAR_POS]) &&
-            !(vars_h[VAR_N] || vars_h[VAR_T] || vars_h[VAR_POS]) &&
+            !(vars_w[VAR_N] || vars_w[VAR_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+              || vars_w[VAR_POS]
+#endif
+              ) &&
+            !(vars_h[VAR_N] || vars_h[VAR_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+              || vars_h[VAR_POS]
+#endif
+              ) &&
             scale->w && scale->h)
             goto scale;
 
@@ -761,11 +775,19 @@ static int scale_frame(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *in, AVFrame **frame_out)
         if (ctx->filter == &ff_vf_scale2ref) {
             scale->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N] = link->frame_count_out;
             scale->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
             scale->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
         } else {
             scale->var_values[VAR_N] = link->frame_count_out;
             scale->var_values[VAR_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
             scale->var_values[VAR_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
         }
 
         link->dst->inputs[0]->format = in->format;
@@ -915,7 +937,11 @@ static int filter_frame_ref(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *in)
     if (scale->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME) {
         scale->var_values[VAR_N] = link->frame_count_out;
         scale->var_values[VAR_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
         scale->var_values[VAR_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     }
 
     return ff_filter_frame(outlink, in);
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_scale_npp.c b/libavfilter/vf_scale_npp.c
index 6ce82e5302..3cfead82bf 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_scale_npp.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_scale_npp.c
@@ -84,7 +84,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "dar",
     "n",
     "t",
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "pos",
+#endif
     "main_w",
     "main_h",
     "main_a",
@@ -92,7 +94,9 @@ static const char *const var_names[] = {
     "main_dar", "mdar",
     "main_n",
     "main_t",
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     "main_pos",
+#endif
     NULL
 };
 
@@ -106,7 +110,9 @@ enum var_name {
     VAR_DAR,
     VAR_N,
     VAR_T,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_POS,
+#endif
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_W,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_H,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_A,
@@ -114,7 +120,9 @@ enum var_name {
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_DAR, VAR_S2R_MDAR,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_N,
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_T,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS,
+#endif
     VARS_NB
 };
 
@@ -204,8 +212,11 @@ static int check_exprs(AVFilterContext* ctx)
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_DAR] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_DAR] ||
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MDAR]     || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MDAR]     ||
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]   ||
-         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   ||
-         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS])) {
+         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+         || vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS]
+#endif
+         )) {
         av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_ERROR, "Expressions with scale2ref_npp variables are not valid in scale_npp filter.\n");
         return AVERROR(EINVAL);
     }
@@ -213,11 +224,16 @@ static int check_exprs(AVFilterContext* ctx)
     if (scale->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_INIT &&
         (vars_w[VAR_N]            || vars_h[VAR_N]           ||
          vars_w[VAR_T]            || vars_h[VAR_T]           ||
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
          vars_w[VAR_POS]          || vars_h[VAR_POS]         ||
+#endif
          vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N]  ||
-         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]  ||
-         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS]) ) {
-        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_ERROR, "Expressions with frame variables 'n', 't', 'pos' are not valid in init eval_mode.\n");
+         vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]   || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+         || vars_w[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] || vars_h[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS]
+#endif
+         ) ) {
+        av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_ERROR, "Expressions with frame variables 'n', 't', are not valid in init eval_mode.\n");
         return AVERROR(EINVAL);
     }
 
@@ -790,9 +806,16 @@ static int nppscale_scale(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *out, AVFrame *in)
         av_expr_count_vars(s->h_pexpr, vars_h, VARS_NB);
 
         if (s->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME && !frame_changed && ctx->filter != &ff_vf_scale2ref_npp &&
-            !(vars_w[VAR_N] || vars_w[VAR_T] || vars_w[VAR_POS]) &&
-            !(vars_h[VAR_N] || vars_h[VAR_T] || vars_h[VAR_POS]) &&
-            s->w && s->h)
+            !(vars_w[VAR_N] || vars_w[VAR_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+              || vars_w[VAR_POS]
+#endif
+              ) &&
+            !(vars_h[VAR_N] || vars_h[VAR_T]
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+              || vars_h[VAR_POS]
+#endif
+              ) && s->w && s->h)
             goto scale;
 
         if (s->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_INIT) {
@@ -813,11 +836,19 @@ static int nppscale_scale(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *out, AVFrame *in)
         if (ctx->filter == &ff_vf_scale2ref_npp) {
             s->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_N] = link->frame_count_out;
             s->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
             s->var_values[VAR_S2R_MAIN_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
         } else {
             s->var_values[VAR_N] = link->frame_count_out;
             s->var_values[VAR_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
             s->var_values[VAR_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
         }
 
         link->format = in->format;
@@ -932,7 +963,11 @@ static int nppscale_filter_frame_ref(AVFilterLink *link, AVFrame *in)
     if (scale->eval_mode == EVAL_MODE_FRAME) {
         scale->var_values[VAR_N] = link->frame_count_out;
         scale->var_values[VAR_T] = TS2T(in->pts, link->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
         scale->var_values[VAR_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     }
 
     return ff_filter_frame(outlink, in);
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_showinfo.c b/libavfilter/vf_showinfo.c
index e6c9d60a85..9caa618b01 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_showinfo.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_showinfo.c
@@ -714,12 +714,11 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *frame)
 
     av_log(ctx, AV_LOG_INFO,
            "n:%4"PRId64" pts:%7s pts_time:%-7s duration:%7"PRId64
-           " duration_time:%-7s pos:%9"PRId64" "
+           " duration_time:%-7s "
            "fmt:%s sar:%d/%d s:%dx%d i:%c iskey:%d type:%c ",
            inlink->frame_count_out,
            av_ts2str(frame->pts), av_ts2timestr(frame->pts, &inlink->time_base),
            frame->duration, av_ts2timestr(frame->duration, &inlink->time_base),
-           frame->pkt_pos,
            desc->name,
            frame->sample_aspect_ratio.num, frame->sample_aspect_ratio.den,
            frame->width, frame->height,
diff --git a/libavfilter/vf_swaprect.c b/libavfilter/vf_swaprect.c
index b76e3bb99d..fad650151f 100644
--- a/libavfilter/vf_swaprect.c
+++ b/libavfilter/vf_swaprect.c
@@ -64,8 +64,16 @@ static int query_formats(AVFilterContext *ctx)
     return ff_set_common_formats(ctx, ff_formats_pixdesc_filter(0, reject_flags));
 }
 
-static const char *const var_names[] = {   "w",   "h",   "a",   "n",   "t",   "pos",   "sar",   "dar",        NULL };
-enum                                   { VAR_W, VAR_H, VAR_A, VAR_N, VAR_T, VAR_POS, VAR_SAR, VAR_DAR, VAR_VARS_NB };
+static const char *const var_names[] = {   "w",   "h",   "a",   "n",   "t",
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+                                                                           "pos",
+#endif
+                                                                                      "sar",   "dar",        NULL };
+enum                                   { VAR_W, VAR_H, VAR_A, VAR_N, VAR_T,
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+                                                                           VAR_POS,
+#endif
+                                                                                    VAR_SAR, VAR_DAR, VAR_VARS_NB };
 
 static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *in)
 {
@@ -90,7 +98,11 @@ static int filter_frame(AVFilterLink *inlink, AVFrame *in)
     var_values[VAR_DAR] = var_values[VAR_A] * var_values[VAR_SAR];
     var_values[VAR_N]   = inlink->frame_count_out;
     var_values[VAR_T]   = in->pts == AV_NOPTS_VALUE ? NAN : in->pts * av_q2d(inlink->time_base);
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     var_values[VAR_POS] = in->pkt_pos == -1 ? NAN : in->pkt_pos;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 
     ret = av_expr_parse_and_eval(&dw, s->w,
                                  var_names, &var_values[0],
diff --git a/libavutil/frame.c b/libavutil/frame.c
index 9545477acc..5c9afb0d03 100644
--- a/libavutil/frame.c
+++ b/libavutil/frame.c
@@ -48,8 +48,12 @@ FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     frame->pkt_duration        = 0;
 FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
 #endif
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     frame->pkt_pos             = -1;
     frame->pkt_size            = -1;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
     frame->time_base           = (AVRational){ 0, 1 };
     frame->key_frame           = 1;
     frame->sample_aspect_ratio = (AVRational){ 0, 1 };
@@ -279,8 +283,12 @@ static int frame_copy_props(AVFrame *dst, const AVFrame *src, int force_copy)
     dst->sample_rate            = src->sample_rate;
     dst->opaque                 = src->opaque;
     dst->pkt_dts                = src->pkt_dts;
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
+FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     dst->pkt_pos                = src->pkt_pos;
     dst->pkt_size               = src->pkt_size;
+FF_ENABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
+#endif
 #if FF_API_PKT_DURATION
 FF_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS
     dst->pkt_duration           = src->pkt_duration;
diff --git a/libavutil/frame.h b/libavutil/frame.h
index 4ed27cf43f..5b58c14ac3 100644
--- a/libavutil/frame.h
+++ b/libavutil/frame.h
@@ -622,12 +622,17 @@ typedef struct AVFrame {
      */
     int64_t best_effort_timestamp;
 
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     /**
      * reordered pos from the last AVPacket that has been input into the decoder
      * - encoding: unused
      * - decoding: Read by user.
+     * @deprecated use AV_CODEC_FLAG_COPY_OPAQUE to pass through arbitrary user
+     *             data from packets to frames
      */
+    attribute_deprecated
     int64_t pkt_pos;
+#endif
 
 #if FF_API_PKT_DURATION
     /**
@@ -673,14 +678,19 @@ typedef struct AVFrame {
     int channels;
 #endif
 
+#if FF_API_FRAME_PKT
     /**
      * size of the corresponding packet containing the compressed
      * frame.
      * It is set to a negative value if unknown.
      * - encoding: unused
      * - decoding: set by libavcodec, read by user.
+     * @deprecated use AV_CODEC_FLAG_COPY_OPAQUE to pass through arbitrary user
+     *             data from packets to frames
      */
+    attribute_deprecated
     int pkt_size;
+#endif
 
     /**
      * For hwaccel-format frames, this should be a reference to the
diff --git a/libavutil/version.h b/libavutil/version.h
index a89a0d406f..93aa7a1050 100644
--- a/libavutil/version.h
+++ b/libavutil/version.h
@@ -114,6 +114,7 @@
 #define FF_API_REORDERED_OPAQUE         (LIBAVUTIL_VERSION_MAJOR < 59)
 #define FF_API_FRAME_PICTURE_NUMBER     (LIBAVUTIL_VERSION_MAJOR < 59)
 #define FF_API_HDR_VIVID_THREE_SPLINE   (LIBAVUTIL_VERSION_MAJOR < 59)
+#define FF_API_FRAME_PKT                (LIBAVUTIL_VERSION_MAJOR < 59)
 
 /**
  * @}